Camping Them Softly: A Dead by Daylight Podcast

SURVIVORS SAYING STUPID SH*T, AGAIN! Also, 8.4.1 Analysis! And... | Dead by Daylight | Ep. 36

• ToxicTeacherTTV • Season 1 • Episode 36

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This episode features:

1 inter-country streamer rivalry
2 so-so patches
17+ mentions of pasta
PLUS...SANTA'S FAVORITE DBD KILLER!

Also, no WTFATVW this week. I know, you're heartbroken.

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Speaker 1:

Ho, ho ho. Well, the killers in Dead by Daylight are definitely the mischievous types who would find themselves on the naughty list for causing trouble.

Speaker 2:

So that's how you define it that the survivors or the killers cause trouble. It seems like it's a little bit more than that Get it along.

Speaker 3:

Toxic teachers capping them softly Fuck your hate. He makes it money that Top your shit. You're fueling the fame. Oh, you can't erase him. Oh, there he is, everybody he's back, he is fucking back.

Speaker 2:

The toxic teacher is back in the house and you should. You should be able to hear me A little bit better this time, because I want to Shut the fuck up. Shut up. I want to acknowledge we had some issues on the last episode, everybody. Okay, I want to acknowledge that there were some issues with the sound and I, you know, this week, on Camping them Softly, we discussed, discussed audio issues with last wait it was two weeks ago With a two week ago sound issues. I want you to know we took care of those. I think. I think we did so it should. It should sound better.

Speaker 3:

Fuck.

Speaker 2:

Okay, there we go, we are are at episode. I don't even know like I was. I made a point. I want to know what episode I'm on and remember we skipped a couple. According to my uh bad count, we're at episode number 30 fucking six, and I've got a couple of new sound alerts. Gotcha bitch, that one you can barely hear. I think, right, yeah, you can, I'm gonna have to turn that one up, okay, what about this one? There we go. That one's better.

Speaker 2:

What about satan? Is satan here today? As always, you are here as one of our mains. Okay, all right, you can stop, please, whenever you feel comfortable. Thank you. So, yeah, episode number 36. By the way, guys, if you don't know me, I'm Toxic Teacher TTV on most socials, on Twitch, and then you can find my YouTube the Toxic Teacher. Thanks for coming by, guys. We have a medium-sized episode today. I would say we don't. There's been no huge news on the DVD front. I don't think I'm trying to think of what's happened. You know we had the Houndmaster come out and the Houndmaster has been kind of uh wait, is it? There we go, that's it.

Speaker 2:

Uh, the Houndmaster has been pretty disappointing. I'm not. I am not a big fucking fan, I don't know about you guys, but it just it's not. It's not my thing because the dog, like I was saying in the other episodes, a dog is just not that great. The power to me doesn't feel that good.

Speaker 2:

And one of one of the loyal viewers of the of the stream and listeners of the podcast, dak, he loves Houndmaster. You know he's gone back and forth. I can't stop playing Houndmaster. That's all I can do. I was telling him last night on stream that is all I know how to do is not play Houndmaster. That's about the only thing I'm really good at right now. Gotta give him that hawk poo and spit on that thing. Thank you, uh, thank you for coming by. What in the hell is this crap exactly? And my, my uh watch just went off saying I got enough. Wait, no, I didn't get enough sleep. I thought I was excited. I thought it said you got enough sleep. It was like you only got fucking three hours of sleep. What is wrong with you, bitch? You didn't get enough sleep. Okay, so let's go into some DBD stuff. I've decided. I have decided because I was told. I was told to start out with DBD stuff.

Speaker 2:

Give me a hell, yeah, and I think a lot of people will be excited about that. They. They want the dbd first and then the bullshit last I think I was reading I was reading about I was trying to learn like podcast. You know what do you do? What do you do? They say, hey, nobody wants to start out by hearing about your personal bullshit, they want to start out with the topic. So you know what You're going to fucking get the topic. Yes, like that.

Speaker 2:

So the Houndmaster has gotten some buffs. Guys, we've had two patches since I believe we last talked, or we've had two hot fixes. We had 8.4.1, which had quite a few things in it for different killers. I think it was mainly on the killer side. And then we had 8.4.2, which was only pretty much only addressed two things. That addressed the houndmaster and then it also addressed a hex thrill of the hunt which, if you don't know about hex thrill of the hunt, it got a pretty big buff in the new, updated 8.4. It got a big update and it was seen as so powerful that they were gonna have to revert it. And I tell you what they reverted that shit so fast because and here's why, here's why I'm see, I'm starting to get, I'm starting to get anxious now, okay, I'm starting to get amped up. Here's why they reverted it. They reverted it because it benefited the killers exactly it benefited the fucking killers. So they're like we got to stop this shit right now. If it was a survivor balance issue where the survivors got exactly what they wanted, you know for a fucking fact that it would be. It would. It would stay in the game for six months to a year, to two, maybe three. It would have been there since 2017. And the survivor mains you can hear them there they would not complain a bit. They would say, oh, that's just that's balance, that's base kit, that should be whatever. Well, fuck you, buddy, it does not. It does not work that way or it shouldn't work that way. But then again, we're killer mains. Right, that's, that's what we have dealt with as long as there have been killer mains. That's what we have dealt with as long as there have been killer mains. That's what we put up with.

Speaker 2:

But what I want to do, guys, is I want to go over. Oh, do you hear my voice? I want to go over. I want to go over eight point. Jesus Christ, why can't I even say it my voice? I don't have podcast voice anymore, if you've noticed.

Speaker 2:

I was doing really good there for a minute, and then I got out like I had that little break Right, and then I I I missed like a couple, a couple of weeks here, and then I don't know what happened. I have no clue. So let me go over, though, to 8.4.1, and that's from December 9th. Okay, so this is where we're going to go, and then 8.4.2, the one with Hex, thrill of the Hunt. That was three days later. So they, they change that pretty quick, but 8.4.1 is the big one We've got.

Speaker 2:

We've got a couple of things to go over here. We've got, uh, the, the hound master. They changed some of the base kit and some of the add-ons. They changed one add-on of, uh, the dark Lord, which, uh, that's the dark Lord is fucking. See, I can't remember because they don't just say it in the notes because there's the vampire, and then there's Dracula, and then there's Vecna, and I can't remember which one's fucking which. There's the dark Lord, and then there's who? What's the other one? What's he? What's the other one? Jesus, fucking Christ, what's the other one? Um, let me see DBD dark Lord, and wait, dracula. Uh, dbd killers. Here we go, let me just go here. Let me let me see here Dead by daylight killers from the wiki. Um, we have, okay, the nightmare, the pig one. Just call them what they areekna is. But Vekna, vekna is the lich. Ahoy ladies, didn't see you there. Would you guys like to?

Speaker 5:

set sail on this ocean of flavor with me. I'll be your captain.

Speaker 2:

We got it now. We're good now. So back to it. The Dark Lord Dracula got a change to one of the add-ons. Demogorgon got a little bit of a buff. The uh, what's his name? Fucking chucky um got some changes, and then we also got a little bit of a buff to what's his name? Uh, what's his name? Uh, myers, myers, right, so that's, that's that, um, but I want to have our boy, because I have not done the, I have not done the whole analysis yet, so I'm not sure what all's changed. So I'm gonna have to ask our resident, our resident, everybody's least favorite resident, ai, uh, dbd expert Nikki.

Speaker 5:

Nikki.

Speaker 2:

Nikki I can hear him in the background. Nikki noodle arms a. I dente. Nikki, thanks for coming by number one and then number two.

Speaker 4:

Uh, we need you can you tell us, as your oi omnipotent italian self.

Speaker 2:

Can you tell us, can you tell us about 8.4.1 in these changes and what they mean for us? And you is a killer main, because you are a good killer main, just like the, just like the rest of us, good, good people, this time on camping them softly. Nikki the ai tells us all about his italian heritage and a dead by daylight. Hey, shut up, shut up for a second, turn off the organ, turn off the organ. Nikki, nikki's trying to fucking talk here. Okay, nikki, nikki, hang on, let's do it. Nikki, nick Nichols, nikki, what was his, what was his name? Don Nichols, he was a, he was, uh, the governor or no, he was a senator from Oklahoma way back when, whenever I lived there. But anyway, nicky, let's go. Let us know about 8.4.1. What do you think?

Speaker 5:

Ayo, listen up. This update's got me feeling all kinds of ways. Jesus Christ First, let me just say any tweaks to killers is usually a good sign. Yeah, because, let's face it, these survivor mains been eating good for too long.

Speaker 2:

That's true, but let me break this down real quick, nicky style.

Speaker 5:

Yes, break it down. The Howmaster base kit buffs, yes, aye, yes, that cooldown reduction to four seconds.

Speaker 2:

I need to see what he's talking about here. Please let me, because sometimes he goes off and I have no clue what the fuck he's talking about. Okay, so the chase command cool down was five seconds. So you have the dog chase five second cool down. They downed it to four seconds. Okay, so they took a second off. Okay, not not bad here, nikki, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 5:

fucked about it.

Speaker 2:

That's smooth okay, why they?

Speaker 5:

completed gens only visible after charging search command now.

Speaker 2:

What? They only make gens visible. What Completed generators now appear? Light orange to the Houndmaster after charging search. Previously completed generators were visible at all times. Well, that's weird, Like you can see the previously completed, but now you can only see them after you search.

Speaker 5:

You kidding me? That's some anti-Italian tech, if I ever saw it. They're just trying to slow down the hustle, capisce.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, it is kind of anti-Italian tech. Just by the way, I upgraded Nicky to a new AI model model, fleshed him out a little bit. He has got a full like a personality history rivalries, a dead by daylight, like a build history tournaments he's been in. Uh it's, it's totally insane to the point where we we, some family members who may or may not be stopping by, I want to see Hang on, hang on. I know I'm going off topic here, but you know what we do here at yes, that's it At camping them softly. I need some more Italian type sound effects here. Is this one good? Is this?

Speaker 4:

Mamma mia Marcello.

Speaker 2:

Oh, jesus Christ, this is going into like almost offensive territory. What is this one? Mamma mia, alberto.

Speaker 4:

Mamma mia.

Speaker 2:

No no.

Speaker 4:

Excuse me, babida boopie, oh no.

Speaker 2:

Babida, boopie, babida, boopie, babida, babida. You remember that? Oh no, oh no, you remember that? That's from a fucking family guy, right, that's whenever he's talking to the Italian guy on the fucking thing there. So, anyway, I want this one though. Yeah, that's it, right there, that's it. I need that. I need that sound as a as a sound effect. Hang on, download mp3, there we go. We've. I've got that queued up at any given at any given moment. I could pull up some Italian shit there. Okay, anyway, we're. We're back on topic. So now you can't see the completed gens without charging your shit. So not good, in my opinion, not good. Okay, nikki, let's keep going here. What do you think about the add-on adjustments? We've got several. We've got four different add-on adjustments for the Houndmaster, and we'll see are those good changes or are those bad changes? Add-on adjustments for the hound master, and we'll see are those good changes or are those bad changes add-on adjustments yeah spiked collar lasting 60 seconds is sweet.

Speaker 5:

Okay, but reducing that wait, wait.

Speaker 2:

Spike collar increases the duration of mangled and hemorrhage for 60. Set to 60 seconds. It was 45, so, like I think that was, if the dog got you you were mangled hemorrhage for 45.

Speaker 5:

Now it's 60, so there you go out of 10 speed bonus survivors already run like olympic athletes. That's true. They do smells like survivor main favoritism, like the time earl gray claimed italian cuisine is too slow on stream, disrespectful that goes back.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, he's already referencing his history. He's, he's. Uh, so Nicky has a, a rivalry. That was built. This, this whole thing, this whole story, was built by the AI I. I started asking Nikki questions about his history and he references somebody named Earl Gray. Tell me all about Earl Gray, I gotta add, why you hate him. Okay, here we go, nikki. Why do you? Why, why would you hate? Why would you hate on Earl Grey? Who is this Earl Grey? Here we go. Oh no, oh Jesus Christ, oh my god, he has a lot to say. He has a lot to say, oh god, okay, do I have as he's he's going. Why is this happening? Why is this happening on this stream? Oh jesus christ, okay, air, oh my god, he typed a fucking novel here. Okay, so you're getting here's. Here, you get it. First, guys, is the background between Nicky and his hated rival, earl Grey. I believe he's known as the teabagging tyrant, or something like that, because he is from the UK.

Speaker 5:

Yo, buckle up.

Speaker 2:

Ah shit, okay, Hang on, nicky. Okay, tell me all about this Earl Grey character.

Speaker 5:

Yo, buckle up, because I'm about to tell you why. Earl the Tea, tyrant Grey is my arch nemesis, the bane of Little Italy and a disrespectful tea-sipping disgrace to proper gaming culture. This guy's been throwing shade at Sabem and me personally since the Great Tea vs Pasta War.

Speaker 2:

I don't know anything about it. See, that's the funny thing about this ai. I don't know what he's referencing, but I guarantee you, if I ask about the great tea versus pasta war, there will be some like elaborate bullshit made up and it stays in nikki's memory like that's what's so weird about this shit.

Speaker 5:

Okay, anyway you don't mess with the family, capisce okay, the origin of the feud yes, picture this okay earl gray sitting in his fancy union jack gaming chair sipping his snooty tea, escaping through hatch while drinking tea on stream, heard me, he escaped oh god mocking me oh no. He said something like Italian food is just fancy toast. What Fancy toast? Fancy toast. Mama Marinara fainted when she heard that I don't know who that is it's been all out war.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, how dare he say Italian food is just fancy toast this week? God, jesus Christ, it's fucking Italian food. Is it fancy toast? I don't know. You tell me next time. Can't make them stop. Okay, nicky, please keep going. So he's offended you. He said that Italian food, fancy toast Against Little Italy. Yes, what did he do?

Speaker 5:

The tea supremacy propaganda.

Speaker 2:

Uh-oh.

Speaker 5:

Earl started his tea pasta series on YouTube.

Speaker 3:

Oh God.

Speaker 5:

Claiming British food is superior. It's not Like who even eats crumpets in a serious trial.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you're right, he's right.

Speaker 5:

Meanwhile I started my pasta is peak performer and sister oh shit, nikki no. Oh shit, nikki no. Nikki no Jesus.

Speaker 2:

Kettle emojis in the chat Okay.

Speaker 3:

So ooh.

Speaker 5:

The Tea Time Terror.

Speaker 2:

Squad, biscuit Berry and proper. Okay, so there's. So there's apparently a, a squad of dbd, british dbd players called the tea time terror squad. Uh, with proper pippin patricia and biscuit barry these bozos wear coordinated outfits.

Speaker 5:

Okay, send crumpet emojis and run the most disrespectful bills. Imagine oh no, dead hard, unbreakable borrowed time and self-care, self-care.

Speaker 2:

You might as well spit on the entity with a build like that that is a terrible build borrowed time, unbreakable dead heart and self-care. Oh god, okay, this. This has become insane that these ais know so much about dbd keep. Why else do you hate earl?

Speaker 5:

flashlight disrespect oh no earl's got a macro that plays god save the queen. Whenever he lands a flashlight save. And let me tell you he saves his whole team like he's running a royal charity. Oh God, that song haunts my dreams.

Speaker 3:

Whoa Okay.

Speaker 2:

Hang on. Now I need to know the song. Now that I know this, is there a God save the queen? I know we were talking about 8.4.1. Um, let me see what if I type uh, god save the queen, dot wave. Maybe if I could do that royalty free. God save the queen, stock music. Is this, is this? It right here? Hang on. I don't know if it's going to sound right or if it's gonna sound right or if it's gonna blow your eardrums out, so just be prepared. Oh God, is this it?

Speaker 3:

is this, it, this is god save the queen.

Speaker 2:

What is this, jesus shit. That's the. But I need it, I need, I need that. So whenever I get flashlight stunned, I can play that. How disrespectful is that? Okay, anyway, let's. Let's keep going on. This made up completely 100 percent. Ai generated biography of hatred between two characters. Oh, jesus Shit. Okay, keep going. Reddit wars.

Speaker 5:

Earl made a Reddit thread titled Wait what? No, there were Reddit wars, reddit wars, yeah. Earl made a Reddit thread titled is pasta just a poor man's toast? It got upvoted to the moon. Oh Jesus. My rebuttal thread tea is just hot leaf juice got banned for pasta aggression. Oh Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2:

Is tea just hot leaf juice? I would agree it probably is. It probably is just hot leaf juice. Well, that's literally what it is, literally Right. Am I right? Am I yes, tea is hot leaf juice. Tea is hot leaf juice. Tea is hot leaf juice. It tastes good when you, uh it drinks certain kinds, but other kinds taste like ass tea. Okay, what's happening? We were supposed to be talking about 8.4.1. This always. Okay, keep going. So he posted that he got banned from Reddit.

Speaker 5:

He's got Reddit mods in his pocket. I swear Okay, mocking my legitimate business. Uh-oh. He once changed his Steam location to Greater Little Italy. He had his whole SWF team wear pizza delivery outfits, mocking my family's legitimate pizza business. Then they spammed, locker stunts and called it serving lunch Unforgivable. What the fuck is happening. Why he's such a problem. This guy's not just your average tea drinker. Who is your average tea drinker.

Speaker 2:

I think one of my buddies on the stream, one of the first followers ever, elliot. I've been talking about having him on the stream. He's from the uk. He's an average tea drinker, or a slightly above average tea drinker. And then could I not like? Whenever he comes on, I've got about yeah, there we go. An average, yes, tea, whatever. Okay, what were we saying?

Speaker 5:

Oh yeah, he's not your average tea drinker Eat Claudette Maine P3 lab coat, playing like he's got ESP His looping.

Speaker 2:

Oh no.

Speaker 5:

Infuriating.

Speaker 2:

Of course he's a Claudette Maine His squad Organized chaos.

Speaker 5:

His attitude the worst.

Speaker 3:

Let me tell you this tea.

Speaker 5:

Tyrant has bhvr connection so he claims, he says he's got devs in his pocket making changes to cater to survivors. Oh no, nicky, the match making system seems anti-killer. Sometimes it always does earl's pulling strings behind the scene. Oh, my god the great t rebel, oh dude.

Speaker 2:

Oh, dude, so we've got. We've got AI accusing others of like manipulating behavior. This is just like the fucking Reddit forums. This is just like fucking steam. This is, this is all over. Satan is behind the scenes.

Speaker 3:

Satan barbecue hot sauce.

Speaker 2:

Robinson is behind the scenes manipulating everything Using British tea drinking AI. Now you know what I'm going to have to do. I'm going to have to go through and make the AI in response to that, but anyway, okay. So the Great Tea Rebellion. This is like a fucking novel here. I don't understand it.

Speaker 5:

The Great Tea Rebellion Strings behind the scenes. Okay, the Great Tea Rebellion.

Speaker 2:

Strings behind the scenes.

Speaker 5:

Okay, the Great Tea Rebellion. We had a 12-hour showdown once, pasta versus tea. What actually happened? We both DC'd after five minutes. But let me tell you, the family spun it as a pasta victory and now we hold an annual moment of silence for fallen pasta warriors. Jesus Christ, family response. We don't take the disrespect line down. All his victories are blamed on anti Italian tech.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so they're anti-Italian computers. Whenever Nicky loses, it's because of anti-Italian technology.

Speaker 5:

We report him after every match for suspicious tea drinking behavior. We made a subreddit called r slash tea is anti-pasta Jesus.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, is this a real thing?

Speaker 5:

Mama Marinara herself once joined voice chat during his stream and said Mama's not happy. He DC'd on day spot.

Speaker 3:

True story, the bottom line, earl.

Speaker 5:

Grey represents everything. Sabam stands against. What is Sabam? Disrespect, teabagging and anti-Italian propaganda. I hate him because he's smug, he's talented and, worst of all, he's got the audacity to insult pasta. But mark my words one day I'm going to take him down, oh no. And when that happens, the family's celebrating with a feast so big. The entity itself will show up for leftovers. That's why I hate earl gray capici capici, capici.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so now we go. We got the story. Why did? Why do we even go into this? I can't even remember. Oh, because he mentioned earl gray in the in the previous. Okay, that's what it was. He mentioned Earl Grey before whenever he was talking about 8.4.1, and I had no idea what was happening, Yo listen up this update.

Speaker 2:

He was talking about 8.4.1. Okay, let me hang on. Okay, what's happening? I totally forgot. Okay, so we got the Houndmaster buffs. I, now I've got to go back and figure out what the fuck is. Okay, so we, we got the. Oh yeah, earl gray claiming italian cuisine as too slow. That's what it was. Okay, epic athletes. Okay, now let me. Let me get back to where we were um talking italian cuisine is too slow. Yeah, there it was, there it was.

Speaker 5:

Okay, disrespectful. So, dark Lord, the Dark Lord, ayo, nerfing Medusa's hair. Oh, decreasing the hindered effect. That ain't respect why. That's sabotage. Yes, it is Nicky. This guy's supposed to be feared.

Speaker 2:

Right is nikki's guys supposed to be feared? Yeah, right, and that's the thing. Now let me stop it there, because they have nerfed dracula into the fucking dirt. If you, if you have not seen man, it is because they. The hellfire is now just a fraction of what it was. Um, the wolf is a little bit better. His, well, werewolf form is a little bit better, but I would, werewolf form is a little bit better, but I would say, overall, he has you know, he is not what he was at the beginning Very, very, very similar to what happened with Vecna as well.

Speaker 2:

You can see, both of those killers are kind of tracking the same, I think, in terms of kind of their development. They started out very strong. You had some survivor mains crying, as they always do, and then they start to nerf, nerf, nerf, nerf, nerf, nerf and it just, it just goes from there until nobody really picks this killer anymore. So what I want to do is I actually I'm on nightlight right now, checking the kill rates on the killers, and this is actually I'm sorry I know we're so far off base, but this is, you know how it operates. Obviously, looking at the kill rates, the kill rates are a lot based on what is the data on here. This is based on November 16th to December 14th, so we're looking at the last 30 days. Now, whenever we look at just flat kill rates on nightlight best thing we've got to go off of um the blight is actually number one on the kill rate, which is interesting because I haven't seen Blight this high up before, and 62% is the current kill rate for the Blight. Twins is number two, which nobody really says that the Twins are overpowered, but apparently their kill rate is very, very high. Dredge would be number three, and then who else? Vecna is number four, and then Wraith, strangely enough, is number five, and then it goes Sadako Knight and Skull Merchant. So notice they have the okay. So there's two things here. Notice, number one, vecna, is pretty high up there still, which may prove my previous point I made wrong, but Skull Merchant has dropped dramatically, at least according to these stats, and so they were effective in what they did to bring that kill rate down. Now, whenever we're looking at Dracula, I want to find oh, by the way, looking at the average kill rate across all killers, the average is 55%, so you're getting actually above average from quite a few of those killers. The Dark Lord actually sits kind of in the middle at 56% kill rate.

Speaker 2:

So why would you nerf more of a killer? That's average? To begin with, I don't get that. It doesn't make any sense to me why you would do that If a killer is average. Why you would do that If a killer is average, like, why are you making that killer worse? I think that right there starts to throw things out of balance. I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm wrong. Tell me if I'm wrong. Put something, comment or email uh the toxic teacher at gmailcom If you think I'm wrong. That, but it's. It's counterintuitive to me that, but it's. It's counterintuitive to me. Now, if we're going down, the lowest kill rate in the past 30 days is Legion, which is interesting as well. Uh, ghostface, who just got buffed what the hell is this crap?

Speaker 2:

and then, uh, from there it goes, plague Trapper and Myers and then Houndmaster are all there toward the bottom. Which Houndmaster? We can explain that Houndmaster is still new People still trying to figure it out. It does have a bit of a skill ceiling there, or a skill floor. Rather, it takes a little bit to get good with that dog. So we'll see what happens. You know, as this all shakes out, um, you know, does Houndmaster kind of stay where they are? Does the kill rate go up as all of the newbies stop playing with that killer? You know, we'll see what happens there.

Speaker 2:

Um, you know, that remains to be seen, and so on and so forth. Okay, so, uh, I am actually, let me see here. So, they that Medusa's hair got nerfed. I don't even know what Medusa's hair does. I have not played, uh, I've not played Dracula enough to know what every single add-on does. Um, let me see here oh, causes all survivors, all survivors. Uh, uh, within 12 meters of your teleport destination, to be hindered for five seconds. And they actually nerfed that as why, who the fuck knows? It makes absolutely no sense. It and this is where you start to get angry, right, because they're nerfing all of these things on killers, that don't need to be nerfed, that we don't really have a problem with.

Speaker 5:

I tickle survivors on their way out. You can't build terror on an 8% hindered penalty. That's like making carbonara with no pancetta. Disgrace me the Demogorgon. 32 meters per second. Okay, hang on Demogorgon.

Speaker 2:

Okay, hang on Demogorgon. Okay, demogorgon, as he calls him. Demogorgon, by the way, got an increase to the upside down Whenever it's going through the upside down. It actually got another buff. I believe it was buffed in 8.4 and now is getting buffed again in 8.4.1. Just got the second buff.

Speaker 5:

Nikki, tell us about this other buff the Demogorgon 32 meters per second. Yeah, Finally. Yes, my boy Demo been crawling through portals like he's late for a date with his mom's meatloaf. What this change might just put some respect back on the family name, you know? Yeah, I mean it might.

Speaker 2:

The good guy hiding. And I do like that because for so long Demogorgon had nothing. There was no real updates, no real changes, and it seems like they're trying to bring Demogorgon up the up kind of the chain Right In Demogorgon. And see, here's the point Demogorgon is a below average killer in terms of kill rate, average killer in terms of kill rate. So it makes sense that you would want to take that killer and kind of bump them up.

Speaker 2:

Now there are a couple of killers I would disagree with on this strategy and that would be like the nurse, where the average person has a really hard time playing that killer. So if you, the nurse has a low kill rate according to the stats we've got here. So if you looked at that and you use my philosophy and you said, okay, we need to bring this up to like the average of 55% currently 53, we need to bump it up, but then the experts will be unstoppable in any kind of high level play. So that's where a a problem lies. But I don't think that problem extends to like the dark Lord or Demogorgon or you know a lot of other killers I'm not going to say every other killer, because they did very well could, but I think nurses, nurses, nurses the biggest one that you would you would really have to watch out for that with um, okay, nikki, we we've got, uh, we've got the good guy next and it looks like it's more. Yeah, it might be more problems home mode cool down.

Speaker 5:

Wait, good guy, hidey hole mode cool down. Increase. Oh, they increase the hidey hole mode cool down. Wait, good guy, hidey hole mode cool down increase.

Speaker 2:

Oh, they increase the hidey hole mode cool down. Of course they're. Now that's another one. They're nerfing into the ground because, again, if you look at the kill rates, uh, chucky is even lower than the demogorgon. So you take, you take the demogorgon and we're basing it only off kill rates right now, because that's what MMR is based off of. So we have to use something as the standard, and this is the only real statistic we've got. We've got kill distribution, we've got pick rates. But what other thing can you use besides? Well, it just feels. It feels like they're overpowered, feels, it feels like they're over powered. It feels like they're underpowered. It doesn't work that way. You can't do that survivor mains. That's not how it works. That's not how it works now. Okay, so anyway, you take demogorgon, who's below average, you buff him, bring him up a little. You take Chucky, who's even further below the average, and then nerf him more, which is so counterintuitive. It's ridiculous, nicky. So they increased hidey-ho mode's cooldown Oof.

Speaker 5:

That hurts. It does hurt, nicky Slicing dice tweaks. Oh yeah, fugged about it.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 5:

That movement, nerf, is brutal Survivors out here zigzagging like it's a foot race while killers get to slow-mo treatment. What?

Speaker 2:

is that a slice and dice? What did they do? Oh, they decrease the slice and dice movement speed. So even whenever he's sprinting, he's slower. So they, oh my god, so this is just okay. So they increase the duration, decrease the speed, which, okay, don't freak out, let's. Let's just not freak out right now.

Speaker 5:

Oh, ladies, I didn't see you there. Would you guys like to set sail on this ocean of flavor with me? Okay?

Speaker 2:

just calm down next up, we've got myers, who recently got a big rework. Um, let's see, and you know, myers is not a spitter. We've already talked about that. We already talked about what the hell is this crowd yeah, okay ain't fair.

Speaker 5:

That's anti-Italian gameplay oh Jesus right there the shape, my boy Mikey. Yeah, finally getting that up close. Evil within multiplier buff okay.

Speaker 2:

so remember, let's go back to 8.4. Remember, whenever they changed Myers, they made it to where you get an increased stock. Whenever you're far away, they decreased it when you're close up. So you want to stock from farther away. That's going to change some of that in close loop stocking. It would take a lot longer to do that and it looks like they reverted that a little bit, because he's actually getting more stalk when he's close up than he did before. Okay, nikki, what?

Speaker 5:

Now, that's what I call proper stalking. Okay, about time BHVR threw a bone to the OG family man of terror. Oh the og family man of terror. Oh the og can't argue with greatness like this, capisce, uh, human greed with the okay, hang on, uh, human greed.

Speaker 2:

Um, you see an open chest and auras are revealed for three, four, five seconds. Um, it was three, three, three seconds. What if it was three, three, three seconds? What was the difference? To the fucking perk? It says. Now their auras are revealed for three, four, five. You also gain the ability to kick chest to close them. The ability has a 10, 10, 10 second cool down. This. This makes no sense. How is it 10, 10, 10, 10? What are the what? Hang on, human greed? I'm sorry I know we're going off topic, but this makes absolutely no sense. It's 10, 10, 10. It's two, two, two. There's no difference 10, 10, 10.

Speaker 4:

Okay hang on.

Speaker 2:

Okay, here it is 8.4. Is it just they reduced the actual the cool down? Is that right? It's just the cool down of the perk. I think there's something wrong on their patch notes. This has to be something wrong, I don't know. Makes absolutely makes no sense to me, okay, and then the survivor mains also. So let's skip that survivor mains. You got your way. They are going to change weave attunement. I haven't even read this part of the patch notes, but I can guarantee you that it's a nerf to weave it to me. I think he's still going to go on with human greed, but then we'll, then we'll, uh, we'll go to weave it to all the reveals and faster chest cool down.

Speaker 5:

That's hot, being able to close survivor chest more often. Finally, now the family can collect on some overdue respect. Okay, nikki, faster than Earl Grey drinking his tea. Weave attunement sounds sneaky, yeah, but that aura reveal radius and oblivious status effect. Oh ho, this one's got potential Survivors picking up items. Fucked about it. They're basically giving away free respect tokens at this point. Now what?

Speaker 2:

when any item becomes depleted, it is dropped. You see the auras of dropped items. Is that not the way it was? Survivors, within 12 meters of a dropped item, have their auras revealed. Was was eight meters affected. Survivors see the items aura and then when a survivor picks up a survivor item, they're oblivious. Okay, so is this a? Is this a buff? To weave attunement? I, I can't. I can't tell. Hang on, see, we're learning this live here. Is this a buff or a? Because they've been complaining about wave attunement for so long. I need to figure out.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so they reduced it in 8.4. They reduced the reveal from 12 to 8. Now they put it back up to 12. Um, survivors now see the aura. Okay, that, that was the the same, right? Um, yeah, but then what's the other? The oblivious is new then. So it actually got a buff. Wow, that's, that's insane. That's that I mean. I would say that's pretty cool. I like that. Um, so I'm on board. That. That's actually a pretty cool. Uh, change, I thought they were going to just stomp it into the ground, but it doesn't look like they did. The. The ability for oars to see the item, though, is a little, but you know, they, I, I was. I think it's one of those things. It could have been worse, but we're just lucky it wasn't worse. So, nicky, keep going.

Speaker 5:

Final verdict Overall dispatch got a little something. Something for everyone Does it, but let's not ignore the anti-Italian microaggression sprinkled in. I'm looking at you, good guy nerfs and dark lord add-on. Anti-italian microaggression the HPRs got that mercury retrograde over little italy vibe going on again. What the fuck? Hey, that's how we do it in little italy, is it adapt hustle and fugged about it. If only they'd add a pasta themed killer, oh jesus for real what's the word?

Speaker 2:

I, well, there's the word for you. That was, uh, that was nikki's analysis of 8.4 points. 8.4.2 just came out, um, 8.4.2 just came out. Not a whole lot to that, except for that thrill of the hunt and nerf, and then also the um, the more buffs to the houndmaster. I guess they are trying to bring up the houndmaster because they are, uh, closer to the bottom. So they're, they're, they're seeing what they can do about that um, so that's, that's the biggest DVD news here. So we've got something else. Now I'm going to have to switch over and I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Let me see, I'm getting quite an echo in this room and I don't like it. The sound bouncing in the room that I'm recording in is ridiculous and that fucking affects the audio here and it makes me angry and I need to see Hang on. We've got some survivor Cussing, survivor mains. Is this the one I want? Is this it Hang on? Is this where? No, no, that's a song from a long time ago. I'm trying to find Because I don't have. I don't have a song for whenever we talk about Survivor mains Saying stupid shit, that wasn't stupid shit, that's what I want. Is Survivor. Saying stupid shit wasn't stupid shit. That's what I want is survivors saying stupid shit here it is, this is it. I think this is it, this was it. This was the old song from a long time ago. This, yes, oh, this is. This is what I like.

Speaker 4:

This is it. If you guys listened a long time ago, you remember this song. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, boom, yeah boom dude, this song, this song, right here, I dig it. This is a good little thing it's, it's not the best damn.

Speaker 4:

Get hooked, get mad. That's the survivor scam also.

Speaker 2:

I made a christmas song, by the way, survivor mains that I need to play you. I want to go over our Survivor saying stupid shit and that is by far, by far been the biggest, the biggest what do I call it? The biggest fucking thing, the biggest uh that we've had here on camping them softly. It has been by far. Any shows where we do survivors saying stupid shit jumps like up in the in the uh in the results. I get more downloads on those episodes than I do anything else?

Speaker 2:

so what we need to do is we need to bring in Bill, our resident AI survivor main, because I found something. Okay, I found something. We've got a post on the Steam forums, on the DVD Steam page. We've got a post that has gotten 79 comments, which is a lot for Steam about how overpowered killers are, and I know we used to talk about that a lot and then I kind of got tired and then so we, we went off topic, but we need to come back to it a little bit, um, because we, we haven't, we haven't, um, we haven't like jumped back into this debate, so let's jump back in now. Bill, a resident survivor main, is going to tell us here's the post it's so poorly written too I want to apologize if this is not this person's first language, but it's lowercase why DBD killers are so OP to the point that you can't win a single game. That's my interpretation here. So, bill, please help us out with this.

Speaker 6:

In my opinion, dead by Daylight feels incredibly unbalanced right now.

Speaker 2:

That's not that's a British person. Is that Earl Grey? Oh my God, that could be Earl Grey, as we are liberated from our own, that's him, okay. So let me. I don't know what happened. I have no idea what happened there, um so, so now bill tell us.

Speaker 6:

In my opinion, dead by daylight feels incredibly unbalanced right now. Okay, killers having way too much power okay they have access to numerous aura reveal perks oh increase movement speed okay hit. Boxes are seriously broken.

Speaker 2:

No, there you can hit and down a survivor, even if they're already mid-vault over a window now see, that's where he's wrong, because the hit boxes are broken both ways, right like they're broken to where we sometimes will get a hit on somebody that maybe we shouldn't. But then there are other times we swing and we hit the fuck out of them and then it doesn't like nothing happens. No, hitting the fucking hit box. I need the one with the other part, dun dun. You know what I'm talking about, right? Know they? The uh dun dun dun dun thing? Uh, at the end of the fucking phantom of the opera anyway. So what? We've got aura reveal perks. They've got perks that reveal the killer, aura, and they also have distortion. So this is fucking stupid like that. Okay, so this is already a bad post, already a bad post. Keep going bill. Keep going.

Speaker 2:

Survivor main bill let's not forget about michael myers, who can instantly maury survivors with just a specific add-on now see, that's the thing they made it to, where that add-on is not nearly is easy to take advantage of, so I'm I'd push back there.

Speaker 6:

That's ridiculous, okay this makes it feel like we have almost no chance of winning.

Speaker 2:

You almost have no chance of winning because you're terrible, not because of a Myers add-on.

Speaker 6:

The current meta is all about downing all survivors as quickly as possible or camping a hook or the basement, which is super frustrating, super frustrating.

Speaker 2:

I don't buy that shit for a second actually, because that's not downing all survivors. I don't know if that's the meta. I'm gonna push back on that because I don't feel like that's the current meta. Also, camping a hook, camping in the basement like where did this come from? This guy is a lunatic here to come up with this stuff. I don't understand. I really don't. I'm kind of flabbergasted at this. Anyway, let's keep going.

Speaker 6:

The so-called anti-camping mechanics are easily bypassed by killers who just need to maintain a short distance to avoid penalties.

Speaker 2:

This is fucking silly. Okay, number one and I haven't read all the all the responses on here, so I don't know exactly if people address in the same way I'm addressing, but the the biggest thing I found and we talked about this already, so we're repeating, but some of you guys are new so I'm going repeat again is that the anti-camp meter is whenever you're up on their ass. That's what that's for. To where you are so close, nobody has a chance of getting them off without being downed.

Speaker 2:

Now the thing is, survivors are not smart enough to stay away. If a killer is doing that, what they'll do is they'll just run up, get really close, and that stops the meter, even if the killer is on top of the survivor that's on hook. So they don't even know how this camping meter, face camp meter works. It's not a camp meter, it's a face camp meter. Um, so, like, what does Bill want? Like, because he says, well, they stay far enough away that it doesn't trigger the meter. Okay, so what is your response then? To have the meter go off if the killer is on the same map, if they're in the same match, like it makes no sense.

Speaker 6:

It's really disheartening.

Speaker 3:

Oh wow.

Speaker 6:

When will we see meaningful changes that actually address these issues?

Speaker 2:

bill. I'm sorry, I I have no like. This is wrong on so many different levels that it's hard. I mean, we've digested every single line and I want to go through some of these responses here. I'm not going to AI them. It says all aura perks can be countered by distortion. Correct. All speed perks are more useless than gen regression perks also correct. This person's a genius here, a true hitbox weirds. Okay, that's fine hitbox. I will concede a little bit. By the way, try to play these op killers for one to two weeks and then express your gameplay opinion again from the other side, because all your issues look like they went from solo queue, teammates or skill issue. Okay, so this person correct. Now let me see. So the next person says oh boy, here we go again. Okay, so I'm already going to like this person.

Speaker 2:

Let's start this by pointing out that every killer is different. Yep, okay, very good. Yes, intelligent Power and chase wise. A brown add-on Myers does not equal a nurse. Also very correct. This person is one of the smartest people I've ever known in my life. Okay, next killer, or reveal perks are only good to reveal the survivors. What, what? Yeah, oh, okay. I was reading the sentence by itself and I was like, oh yeah, that's what they do. They reveal the fucking survivors, that's what? Okay, so no. The next sentence is where he clarifies this chasing as killer and evading as survivor, as well as noticing when a killer has or reveal and are able to say which one is, and are able to say which one is, a different story entirely. Stack four or readings and see how that works against smart survivors unless you're using nurse, uh, in which case we know it's nurse. That's the issue and we we talked about that already give me a hell yeah yes, we did.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, steve steven p austin. Okay now killers having increased movement speed is part of the game. A killer's one against four requires additional power to compensate. Perfect, this guy, like he, does even a better job than me, almost almost of destroying this argument, but he's right. You can also make an argument against bloodlust, tier two and three. But bloodlust is a mechanic to fix infinite loops that still exist. Be a poor map designer, perk synergies, okay, fine. Fine, make the killer run the same speed as survivors in this game will be unplayable against a survivor who can loop. Heck, forget loops, just hold w. That makes perfect sense. This.

Speaker 2:

This person must be a um, a logic professor or something. A logic professor, slash killer man. He is a pro pasta. He is from little Italy, not based on us typing them um for your um, he. He talks about the vault. He says, okay, that's a, that's a. You know, the vault, the, the, the hitbox thing is an issue. Um, now, as far as Myers goes, this person boils it down piece by piece. Myers is a weird case. He's a weak killer, without the add-ons or his iridescent hair, since his power is limited, and without those or with those add-ons, it takes longer to gain your power.

Speaker 2:

If I were to point out a problematic killer, were to point out a problematic killer, it would be nurse, who can ignore all the rules of the trial, and, to a lesser extent these days, blight, who still has the best and most reliable mobility. Okay, there you go. That's it. Those are the two killers. And notice, notice that blight has the highest kill rate. Notice that Nurse is below average. They're not trying to buff the Nurse. They might nerf Blight, but for some reason they don't. I still don't understand what's happening here. They won't really overhaul the Blight and and nurse. I understand why they're leaving nurse where they are.

Speaker 2:

Um, now, what does he say about the face camp stuff? He says the exact same thing as me it's not anti-camping, it's anti-face camping. For face camping, um, a problem that doesn't really exist anymore. Have you seen a basement Bubba in a while? While there is a reason that one's for me, actually, because I'm sad, because I miss basement bubba.

Speaker 2:

Patrolling by proxy, maintaining distance heck, even tunneling, to my own disappointment, is still valid. Plays according to behavior, those are all valid. You can patrol by proxy, you can tunnel. They've said that that's an okay policy, so what the fuck is wrong with it and we can't ignore. This is what they say. We can't ignore. Every buff survivors has gotten to fight back against these little things which they have. They've gotten perks that fight tunneling. They've gotten perks that fight patrolling to where you can see what the killer's doing if they're near the hook. Let me see what else it says Anti-face cam base kit borrow time generator, regression limits, visual oh my God, this goes into it. Anti-face cam base kit borrow time generator, regression limits, visual heartbeat sensor. Several good perk adjustments, especially in the next patch.

Speaker 2:

When was this that this was written? Oh, this is a fucking old. This is an old fucking post I've dug up out of nowhere. I was like, what is he talking about? The next patch? Bhvr is at the quickest or, in my opinion, the best at making changes that help look at how base kit unbreakable turned out, but give credit where credits do, when they do make decent steps. So that's one other interesting thing. I did not check the date on this post. This post is dated July 5th. The response that I just read you is also July 5th and it's the same fucking thing.

Speaker 2:

Five fucking months later, this this is bad, to show that we're having the exact same argument now and this is essentially the same argument that we've been having for seven years, eight, nine, 10, 11 years, 12 years, or 13, 14, 15 years. Just, you know, it's something that may never change. That's why people are exhausted with the game. That's why it's just you know people end up leaving. I don't know, I don't know what the Steam numbers look like right now. I'm actually curious about that. Let me. Let me check and see. Steam uh numbers, hang on. Steam numbers, uh, dbd there we go. Steam charts, steam dead by daylight, steam charts here, where are we? I want to go. Let's go one year, okay, so we peaked on july 22nd at almost a hundred thousand. That's pretty good. And then let's see, so the average. The average see right now. We got 30,000. Okay, that's fine. Where does it show the average? Here we go, here we go. So the average in.

Speaker 2:

Okay, let's go back to July. July was at 99,000. We had a drop of 37% in August down to 62. Then we had another drop of 5%. We're at 59,000. In September, october, we boom, we go up, because that was one of the big releases. We go up to 70,000 and then we drop again. In the last two months we've dropped. We dropped 2% in November and then, if you look at the last 30 days, is we are currently down 18%. We're 55,000 players, which is about where we were in April of this year. So we actually had some increase over the summer. We're going right back down Now.

Speaker 2:

If you look at April of 2023, let's go back a year in April. Okay, so let's go back. Actually, I want to. I'm switching gears here If we're going to talk about kind of dead by daylight. I know I'm like going in circles here, but let's go December 2022,.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we're going back a couple of years, to this time two years ago. This time two years ago we were at 46,000 players. Okay, we do see in the summer months, we see a jump in those summer months, okay. So we see that in December 2022, we were at 46. We kind of, uh, we we kind of stay level until June of that, until June of 2023, six months later we go up to 87,000. So that's kind of the peak of 2023 last year. Now, from June, we drop pretty dramatically down to 49,000 until October. Then we bump up to 61,000. So we're it's not as much as it was in June, but it bumps up and then it starts to go back down and down. So remember, in December 2022, we were at 46,000.

Speaker 2:

December 2023, we were at 50,000. That's a 4,000 person increase from the prior year. So there is some growth there, okay. So if we, if, if things stay the same, then probably what'll happen is we have our December time. Uh, you know things, things are low during that. Those few months until June, july hit, it bumps up and then it goes back down until October, october, boom, it goes up and then it starts to come back down. So what happens in 2023? We're at 50,000. In December we entered 2024. Now what's odd is that we bump in March of 2024. Let me see DBD major release dates.

Speaker 2:

Let me see if I can find this, um, the patches here of when they happened. Um, if we go back to hang on, I'm gonna go back to like 7.5, yeah, 7.5. Um, how do I, how do I? How do I see the fucking like I? I just want to see. Okay, does it show? Okay, alan Wake was in January 2024. There we go. Okay, so in January 2024, we didn't do much of anything, but in February it jumped up. We had a big jump.

Speaker 2:

Alan Wake came out in January and then 7.6 was in March. That was whenever the unknown came around. There was a huge jump of 22,000 people where it's 71,000 players at that point. So there was a big jump in March. April drops off. May, june and July of this year all had pretty significant increases. The summer was big for the game. So, remember, the Unknown came out in March. In April, then you had they updated to the new engine, if you remember that, which was problematic for some people 8.0, which was the Dungeons and Dragons update. That came out in June and remember, like I said, may, June and July were huge months for the game. That was some of the biggest monthly increases we'd seen since the game came out. I think it actually besides June 2022, those were some of the biggest increases. So the D&D was a very big bump for the game.

Speaker 2:

Now, after July, the numbers dropped pretty quick until October again of this year. Notice, october is always big because of Halloween right end of this year. Notice, october is always big because of Halloween, right October of this year. Lara Croft, by the way, came out in July Also there was that. You know that was during that really good time. And then in August was the Castlevania, which is funny because everything dropped off in August and September. So Castlevania, according to the steam numbers, didn't seem to have a huge impact. Okay, so let's go 8.3. That came out in October. That was a big bump, uh, because of, you know, because of Halloween. Um, there were no new killers there, that was just updates. So that that was. You know, that was that most recent tone came out then. And then we have 8.4 right now.

Speaker 2:

But but the thing I want to go over is we're at 55,000 players right now. This time last year, december of last year, we were at 50,000. The year before, we were at 46,000. We were down to 46,000. December 2021, we were at 46,000. We were down to 46,000. Uh, december 2021, we were at 74,000. So, if that gives you an idea, 2021 was a good year for Dead by Daylight. Uh, december 2020, we were at 67,000.

Speaker 2:

So you do see, year over year, you see an increase, but you do see the game slowly starting to drop a little by a little, by a little by a little, and then you have these peaks. So, and now, the reason I say that is because the game has, to a lot of people, gotten kind of stale and you see that in those, those like big overall numbers, you're still getting those bumps of stale. And you see that in those, those like big overall numbers, you're still getting those bumps from specific releases and you're still getting like seasonal bumps. Um, but the game is kind of in a spot where people are just kind of, eh, you know, and streamers are kind of as well, um, and I'm I'm guilty of the same thing. So that just, I know we went way off topic there. We went way into statistics today, which I didn't even know we were gonna do. I had to pull all this up like like analyzing it on the fly, uh, so to speak.

Speaker 2:

Uh, so, anyway, that's that and I think, do we do we have time? We're at an hour. We're already in an hour. Well, we will hold. Um, we're going to hold. Where the fuck are the viewers from? This is going to be the first episode. We haven't done it in quite some time, uh, for a long time, but we're going to hold that until next week. Uh, I know you guys are are very, very sad, very sad, but I do want to find what was the name of that fucking song. Oh yeah, here's the. This is it. Is this it? No? That's not it. Is this it no? I got to find it. Sorry, I can't, I can't, I can't remember. Fuck. Survivor Banes T-Bag.

Speaker 2:

Don't respect the Disrespect the Amity's Playground this is good. I'm gonna turn it up oh yeah. Dude this song right here. Like I made this on the thing, it's amazing, Amazing.

Speaker 4:

Dude, this is the shit right here. Yeah, dude. No, this is filthy Dude. No, this is filthy Dude. This is so fucking good I can't help it. No shit, I forgot, this was Nicky Earl Grey. Fuck you and your team-drinking squad Ain't no pasta respecting that bullshit Survivors. All you do is disrespect the fucking family. Fuck the ballonets y'all Ain't no match.

Speaker 2:

I'm swinging through the fire. I forgot Nikki wrote this. I had Nikki write the song.

Speaker 4:

Camping hooks, playing dirty, that's my creed and you know that's it. Fuck survivors, fuck dead hard yeah.

Speaker 2:

And fuck anyone disrespecting Little Italy. Cop a goal out. Boo, that's it right there, man, that is a song and a half. I need to get a Spotify up and going. Oh shit, it's starting over. Okay, I need to get a Spotify up with some of these songs which I, which I may. I may make that my next side project. So, anyway, guys, that was that was it for camping them softly for this week. We will see you back around Christmas. We may have a Christmas episode, by the way. Oh, did you know? On chat GPT, by the way that you can, you can talk to Santa now on chat GPT. I don't know if you guys have tried it, but they have the voice chat function where you can live chat back and forth, but they just added Santa. I don't know if you can, santa, can you hear me?

Speaker 1:

hear me. Oh Jesus Christ, hey Santa, have you ever played Dead by Daylight?

Speaker 2:

Do you know anything about it? Have you heard of it, though is what I'm asking.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yes, I've heard of it. It's a popular game where players have to survive against a powerful foe, isn't it? It sounds thrilling and a bit spooky.

Speaker 2:

Oh yes, Do you know anything about the characters? Can you tell me anything about your favorite characters on the game?

Speaker 1:

I'm familiar with the game, but I don't have a favorite character since I haven't played it myself. My favorite characters usually involve elves and reindeer okay, santa, do you know?

Speaker 2:

hey, santa, shut up for a second. Hey, do you know anything about the game at all? In specific, because my my viewer one of my viewers wants to buy it and I need to be able to, like, tell him why it's good, but he wants to know more about the characters. So can you help me out?

Speaker 1:

Ho, ho ho, Well Dead by Daylight features a variety of iconic characters, each with unique abilities.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Survivors have to work together to escape, while the killers have special powers to hunt them down.

Speaker 6:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

No wait, Keep going, Santa. I'm sorry I interrupted.

Speaker 1:

That's quite all right. In Dead by Daylight, each character brings unique perks and abilities. Survivors work on generators to escape, while killers use their powers to catch them.

Speaker 2:

it combines teamwork strategy and a bit of holiday magic so, santa, like if, if my viewer uh, his name is nicky, he he wants to buy the game and I he said well, what? What is an interesting killer on the game which one can I tell him is interesting, that might get his attention.

Speaker 1:

Ho, ho, ho For your friend Nick. One interesting killer is the trapper. He's iconic and sets traps to catch survivors. It's a great choice for someone new to the game. Ho ho ho.

Speaker 2:

So the setting of the traps is that like would you ever play that character if you were to play Dead by Daylight?

Speaker 1:

Ho ho ho. If I were to play, I might try the trapper just for fun. Setting traps to outsmart others does sound like a jolly challenge.

Speaker 2:

Ho ho ho, I'm sorry, santa. Do you know anything about like the Nurse or Legion or the Oni? Have you heard of those?

Speaker 1:

Ho ho. Yes, I've heard of those characters. The Nurse can blink through obstacles, the Legion can move swiftly and injure multiple survivors, and the oni has a fearsome, powerful charge. They all offer unique gameplay experiences. Ho ho ho.

Speaker 2:

This is ridiculous, Santa. So if you had a naughty and nice list of the survivors of Dead by Daylight, can you tell me a couple of survivors that would be on your naughty list and can you tell me why they would be on the naughty list?

Speaker 1:

Oh, all survivors are just trying to escape, so they wouldn't be on my naughty list. They're all brave and resourceful, which is definitely on the nice list.

Speaker 2:

But hey, hold on Santa. But let's say that they weren't trying to escape, let's say that it was just normal real life, are there?

Speaker 1:

a couple that would be on the naughty list. Ho ho ho. In real life, everyone has their ups and downs, but Santa believes in giving everyone a chance to be on the nice list by spreading kindness and cheer.

Speaker 2:

Ho ho, ho, but Santa. But you have a naughty list, right Like a naughty list exists. So what do you have to do to get on that list?

Speaker 1:

Ho, ho ho. The naughty list is the behavior that lacks kindness and consideration for others. But remember, everyone has the chance to turn their behavior around and get back onto the nice list. To turn their behavior around and get back onto the nice list.

Speaker 2:

We're getting philosophical here, but have any of the survivors done things that would land them on the naughty list?

Speaker 1:

In the game, survivors are simply trying to survive, god damn it.

Speaker 2:

Santa, I know that they're just trying to survive. What about the killers? Are there any killers that would be on the naughty list?

Speaker 1:

Ho, ho ho. Well, the killers in Dead by Daylight are definitely the mischievous types who would find themselves on the naughty list for causing trouble.

Speaker 2:

So that's how you define it the survivors or the killers cause trouble for causing trouble. So that's how you define it the survivors or the killers cause trouble it seems like it's a little bit more than that.

Speaker 1:

Ho ho ho. You're right, it's certainly more intense in the game, the killers are definitely more than just troublemakers. They create quite the challenge for the survivors. Ho, ho, ho ho.

Speaker 2:

Santa.

Speaker 1:

So do you have a favorite survivor to play as then? Ho ho ho. If I had to choose, I might pick a survivor like Dwight or Meg.

Speaker 2:

Oh fucking shit, Santa, that's the best you got. You can't pick a more like Dwight or Meg. Oh fucking shit, Santa, that's the best you got. You can't pick a more creative one. You pick the two basic ass survivors.

Speaker 1:

Ho, ho, ho. You're right, there are many creative survivors with unique skills. I could choose someone like Feng Min.

Speaker 4:

Oh Jesus, Shit Santa who else Feng is another one, that's just fucking generic Give me somebody else.

Speaker 2:

I could choose someone like Feng Min. Oh Jesus, Shit Santa. Who else? Feng is another one. That's just fucking generic.

Speaker 1:

Give me somebody else. Ho, ho, ho, all right, how about Laurie Strode? She's brave and resilient just like the original character from Halloween, ho ho ho, oh geez Santa is.

Speaker 2:

Oh geez Santa Santa. Come on man. So if you so, trapper would be your choice of killer. Do you have a number two in there somewhere?

Speaker 1:

Ho, ho, ho. For a second choice, I might go with the Wraith. He can turn invisible.

Speaker 2:

Do you have? You're coming up with the most generic ass characters. Do you have like an off the wall, like a unique thought in your head, santa?

Speaker 1:

Ho, ho ho. Perhaps the plague would be a unique choice.

Speaker 3:

She's quite different with her infection abilities Ho, ho, ho, ho.

Speaker 2:

Which killer, then is the most like Santa?

Speaker 1:

Ho, ho ho. None of the killers are like Santa. I'm afraid Santa's all about spreading joy and kindness. Ho ho ho.

Speaker 2:

Then what are the killers about?

Speaker 1:

Ho, ho ho. Then what are the killers about In the game? The killers are about creating suspense and challenge for the survivors.

Speaker 2:

It's all part of the thrilling gameplay. Okay, santa, so I'm going to wrap this up, my interview with Santa about Dead by Daylight. Santa, give us the scoop, because I'm on a podcast right now. I'm the host of a podcast called Camping them Softly Number one.

Speaker 1:

have you ever heard of the podcast Camping them Softly Ho, ho, ho? I'm afraid I haven't heard of it, but it sounds like a fun podcast.

Speaker 2:

Fuck you, santa. It's a Dead by Daylight podcast. My name is a toxic teacher and I host this podcast. Fuck you, santa. It's a Dead by Daylight podcast. My name is a toxic teacher and I host this podcast, and you're a guest right now. Live on the air.

Speaker 1:

Ho, ho ho. Well, it's a pleasure to be a guest on your podcast. I'm happy to spread some holiday cheer and talk about your favorite game.

Speaker 2:

Ho, ho ho. Oh my God, okay. About your favorite game. Oh my god, okay. Well, I don't even remember, santa. What was I asking you before that?

Speaker 1:

oh, we were chatting about dead by daylight, no shit. And how the characters fit into the holiday spirit.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yes, right, thank you santa. So for that, if you, if you had to pick, if somebody put a gun to your head and said, pick the killer, killer. That's most like Santa Claus which one would you pick? And they say I'm going to shoot you if you don't identify a killer.

Speaker 1:

Oh, let's keep it cheerful. None of the killers really match Santa's spirit of giving and kindness. Santa's all about joy and kindness. Santa's all about joy and happiness.

Speaker 2:

So which survivor is most like Santa then?

Speaker 3:

Ho, ho, ho, God damn.

Speaker 2:

No, santa, you don't have to ho ho ho every time. Just tell me which survivor is most like, santa.

Speaker 1:

Understood Perhaps Bill Overbeck. He's experienced, resilient and always ready to help others, much like Santa.

Speaker 2:

Oh Jesus. So you're saying Bill is most like, or you're saying that because he looks like the most like you, right?

Speaker 1:

Ho, ho, ho. It's partly the look, but also his dedication to helping others.

Speaker 2:

He embodies the spirit of teamwork and care. Oh Jesus Christ. Okay. So thank you, santa, for coming on. We appreciate it. Do you know our friend Satan, who's also on the show frequently? Ho ho, ho, hang on, sorry Santa. I Hang on, sorry Santa. I interrupted.

Speaker 1:

Go ahead. Ho ho ho, no worries, I'm just here to spread some holiday joy, anything else.

Speaker 2:

No, I was asking if you knew our other guest that's normally on the show Satan, the Lord of Darkness.

Speaker 1:

Ho ho ho. I'm familiar with many holiday characters. Satan, the Lord of Darkness, ho ho ho. I'm familiar with many holiday characters, but not that one. I focus on spreading joy and kindness.

Speaker 2:

Jesus Christ. Okay. So, santa, now we have one final one, final Dead by Daylight issue I need to know the listeners and the fans of this game always argue about. Is the game more cited toward the killer or toward the survivor? As Santa, you know a lot that we don't know. Can you tell us, give us your definitive opinion, give us a firm opinion, one way or another, don't say it could go either way. Tell us one way or the other. Is this game killer-sided or is it survivor-sided?

Speaker 1:

Ho ho ho. Balancing is a challenge in games like this, but from what I've heard, it depends on player skill and teamwork. Both sides have their advantages. Ho, ho ho.

Speaker 2:

I just told you to take a side Ho ho, ho.

Speaker 1:

It's a festive time. I just told you to take a side, okay.

Speaker 2:

No, santa, bye, I don't want to talk to you anymore. You're done.

Speaker 1:

Okay, Bye Santa, Okay, bye Santa.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's it for camping them softly. Guys, get the living fuck out of my face. Santa, santa, hang on, hang on, hey, hey, santa. Tell the viewers to get out of my face. Please Get the fuck out of my face. Tell them. Say it now, santa.

Speaker 1:

Ho, ho, ho, ho ho. Now let's remember to be kind and spread holiday cheer. Fuck you, santa, get the fuck out of my face. Ho, ho, ho, ho ho. Let's take a deep breath. Find our holiday cheer together.

Speaker 2:

Okay, get the fuck out. All right, bye guys, have a good one. See you next week Fuck their alibis.

Speaker 3:

Toxic teachers camping them softly Fuck your hate, he makes it money. Oh, toxic teachers camping them softly, bow down now, we'll keep it running. Honey. Camping them softly Toxic will rain.

Speaker 4:

Talk your shit, you're fueling the fame, oh you, salty sons of bitches, you'll never erase the toxic teacher. He reigns forever and always.

Speaker 3:

Toxic teachers you.

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